Yes of course me and my colleagues in UKIP are on the case working out what other racist, bigoted cause to champion. I think night and day how many people I can harm. Us evil xenophobes will soon reinvent the holocaust…
Flo…the racist bigot!
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A lot of what has happened since Thursday was predictable, and what both sides ignored was best described as “unintended consequences” (what a philosopher or systems engineer would call “Emergent Properties”).
- The Boris immediately wants to slow down our departure (not having figured out how it was going to work), but the EU want us out fast.
- The French want us to take back our Calais based immigration control. The words I saw were “You want to take back control, you can take back your border”
- N. Farage admits that the mythical £350 million each week cannot be put into the NHS.
- There is now a petition to try and force Johnson, Farage, and Gove to put the money where they put their mouths and find £350 million for our health service. Yes, I did sign that one.
- There is a petition to call for another referendum. This topped the 100,000 mark in 24 hours, so it must be discussed by Parliament this week.
- There is a campaign to replace Corbyn with a decisive leader.
- The Tories are now in a panic at the thought of Boris as their leader.
- Your cheap holiday in the sun will no longer be cheap. Your pound will no longer get lots of Euros . And you will be flying through French and Spanish airspace - administered by them for Eurocontrol (HQ in Brussels)
My biggest regret, is that I will not be around to say “You did it - your problem - you sort it out” when everything goes pear-shaped in a few years.
Geoff
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That would be great. It would be nice to have our identity back.
The brain deadedness that having everything in base ten meaning nobody has to think anymore but instead just move a decimal point, cannot do people’s cognitive skills any good whatsoever.
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All very interesting…especially being called a racist bigot!
I live in a village and the village voted 70:30 to leave. People here are delighted. The problem that I believe prompted the vote is that we are currently being lumbered with 600 new houses that will destroy the village.
The primary school has no more places. The GP’s clinic is overloaded. The roads and infrastructure is not able to cope. The village is soon to be gridlocked.
Lot add to that it has just been announced by the fire service that our area is cutting 25% of its engines. We are losing 26 fire engines…how does that all work?
We have a beautiful area of common land which at the moment is used as a camp site by Rumanian illegal immigrants. These Rumanians are currently running a car theft campaign and cars are broken into every night. There are no police here, our local stations have closed down. It’s the police that told us it is the migrants doing the car thefts so goodness knows why it still goes on and they are still camping on the common.
A village close by has a river running through it and immigrants were killing and eating the swans…people here are sick of it.
There is a huge difference between free movement of labour and open borders that let in unemployed vagrant bums to pillage villages like ours.
I joined UKIP and voted leave…control the borders and make us safe again.
Flo
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Hi,
I just wanted o say a very few words in defence of those “OK” OAPs. Being one myself I voted remain and those other OAPs that I know voted remain too including my mum who’s 89 . Please don’t think most OAPs are not just as worried as you about what is likely to happen in the near future about their state and private pensions which have taken several knocks in the past decade. I don’t honestly know the makeup of the Brexit voters but please don’t “ok thank you very much” all OAPs.
Sorry but I just had to respond and please don’t be offended.
Regards, Anne
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Regrettably, I am of the view that the majority of the electorate, for both sides, did not base its voting choice on reason and facts. There was plenty of unbiased information available without having to go much further than the Reality Check on the BBC website and the I newspaper.
Regaining control was one of the oft repeated mantras of the Brexit campaign, especially when referring to the subject of immigration. Only a few of the Brexiteers, such as Daniel Hannan, faced the reality of the issue post referendum. We already have control over non-EU immigration and he anticipated that freedom of movement of labour, as opposed to benefit seekers, would have to remain as part of any exit negotiations. Regrettably the more well known exponents of Brexit, such as Farrage and Johnson glossed over this.
We will endure years of turmoil because of Cameron’s short term strategy to win the 2015 election. It’s not a question of accepting the decision with grace, which I do, as I am a democrat.
As I have intimated in previous posts, I anticipate that we will end up with a Norway style arrangement with the European Economic Area for which we will have to pay a fee but have no say over how it is run as we will no longer be at the top table. Will that have been worth all the heartache?
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So, Florence, your area voted for leave partly/mainly because there were plans to build houses.
And you are also pleased that there was a leave vote because youngsters will be able to buy their own home.
Answer this, where exactly are their nice new homes going to be? Certainly not in your backyard I take it!
I am not calling you a racist or a bigot. What I do think I am entitled to call you on the basis of this and previous pronouncements you have made on here is completely illogical!
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I think that, it wasn’t as much a case of a poorly informed electorate - and, by God people were (on both sides)! - but, rather, a significant part of the electorate just wanting to put 2 fingers up to the politicians, “the fat cats”, the “experts” (yeah what do they know?!) and anyone else they could think of to blame for their problems.
Problem was, they forgot they had a gun in their hands when they tried to flick the V and ended up shooting the whole country in the foot.
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The notion that the ‘leavers’ didn’t have a good reason for voting as they did or that they had no inkling of the effect their vote would have is, in my case, wrong.
Leaving the EU gives us more control over what happens in our country than if we remain in the EU.
My perception is that the EU has become too complex to function effectively.
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Sssssshhhhhh. If you didn’t vote stay, you’re obviously wrong… They don’t want to know your reasons, because they’re never wrong.
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Oh no we will have to run our own country the MPs might have to work now
Thankyou Anne. I am an OAP too (63) and I made my vote the way I wanted to. It isnt fair to make sweeping statements like, Thankyou very much OAPs.
We do live in a democracy, thank heavens, so why cant the unhappy electorate accept the result of the referendum?
Or do we keep repeating it until they get a result they like?
poll
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I am also (like Russo) one of the ‘stupid electorate’; but proud of it. Being ‘stupid’, perhaps, after five years study at the age of 56, I should cancel my final third year BSc degree module due to start in October!
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I don’t usually comment on non-MS matters.
I voted remain, the EU is far from perfect but I feel the Brexiteers have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Now the UK is breaking up, jobs are moving abroad, this is just the start of very bad consequences I believe. I respect the Brexiteers opinion but also think they were hoodwinked by jingoistic isolationist fantasy. Britain or what’s left of it is in great danger.
Good luck everybody,
Dave99.
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I agree Dave. Flo - I can see you have problems where you live. That must be difficult. However you have helped to forfeit the future of the rest of the country. For yr village. You needed to look at the bigger picture. I don’t think people were stupid. They did a stupid thing. Cos they didn’t look at the bigger picture. My life has already changed due to the vote. Don’t let people tell you nothing has changed. Oh yes it has. Anne
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The thing is they’re not going to give £350million to the NHS, it was a mistake, says Farage and immigration is not going to stop. They lied. Scotland is going to leave the UK and Ireland is possibly going to unite. So, there is not going to be much left of the UK or should I say K.
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STOP PRESS
A politician lied !!! (And on both sides. BOTH. Open your eyes, that’s what THEY do !!!)
Florence, it’s the same in most places. It took my boss two weeks to get a doctors appointment.
Yes, yes, yes, if whinging fuelled the economy, we’d be sorted, Anon.
The sky did fall in in this region of Blighty, but we just got the Polish here to put it back up.
I love how your views are read, but all respect, you’re wrong !!! So with respect, F**k off. They are NOT wrong. 17 million people cannot be wrong. Their views ARE DIFFERENT TO YOURS !!! And thank goodness for that. That’s why it’s a democracy.
We’re not going to crash and burn, we will make do and mend, and thrive.
Have you all just given in to your m.s ? No, you say F**k you, let’s get on with this. The same will apply here.
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Well said Carraboy. Just to add, the choice (most) people would have made, either way, would have been based upon their own personal life course history; values; beliefs and (probably) their socio-economic situation; in other words, a rational decision for them, which deserves to be respected.
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Will you vote out again if we have another referendum? Petition in favour of a re-run had 3,658,610 signatures, last time I looked.
ANONYMOUS. Dont appreciate being called a whinger! That is something I am not. I appreciate we all have different views. Carraboy - really don’t appreciate your post. Tone down the lanuage eh? Act like an adult. Anne
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