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Champion (frances) this might interest you

Ok so this post is predominantly directed at champion as I think that you will be one of the best people to advise on it. I know that this has been raised numerous times in the past but it’s something that a dentist mentioned the other day that got me thinking. I’m slowly getting my silver fillings removed and replaced with white ones - it’s more cosmetic than anything else! But interestingly my usual dentist wasn’t in the other day when I needed to get a chip of a tooth sorted out so i saw another dentist at the practice. I happened to mention to this other dentist about my leaky filling that I had at the end of 2011/start of 2012 (I didn’t know the filling was leaking but it had been leaking for a couple of months my dentist had reckoned). Well it was in April last year that I developed symptoms of ms - completely out of the blue with no previous signs or symptoms of anything. That was my first attack and I suffered quite badly for months. I got my filling sorted out and replaced with a white one in August last year. This dentist that I saw the other day asked me if they had carried out tests and I explained that I had loads of blood tests and MRI scans and doctors and consultant were pretty sure of a diagnosis now of ms. Well the dentist then said have they carried out a mercury level test to which my response was that I didn’t think they had and was a bit taken aback by him asking that. It turns out they had a patient that went through something similar and it turned out to be mercury poisoning. Wanted to know if anyone had heard of this as I thought it was a bit far fetched and interestingly I would imagine that there must have been some people on here that have had a mercury level test?

Two years ago I went to a private GP who has gone towards more alternative theories and therapies. He told me that a patient of his (when he had been in standard practice) swallowed one of his large mercury fillings. Within hours he had been admitted to A&E with severe neuroligical problems and died. Autopsy and MRI revealed severe demyelination and inflammation all through his central nervous system which was all recent. Mercury poison was given as his cause of death.

If my children ever need fillings I am going to pay that bit extra for white ones!

Certainly nothing far fetched. And thanks for posting this as so many us will be more then interested. You have a very good dentist there. Most of them will not get involved with the debate about the damage mercury fillings can do. l know lots of pwms do not have amalgum fillings - but mercury is still in other things that we are contact with. lnoculations is one.

Time we all asked for a mercury level test. l know dentist’s and their staff have to have regular tests. lt usually involves hair and nail samples.

Many thanks for this- shall be interested in your test results.

F.

l just googled mercury testing - and there are several places where you can get a home testing kit - this is if your GP refuses to see the seriousness of this.

My gp is pretty useless so I doubt that they will do the test so am thinking of buying one off of the Internet - I just think its worth having the test done as my dentist recommended it. I’m doubtful that this is all caused by the mercury but I take the thinking that what harm will it do to get tested and checked out - especially as a dentist is the one that recommended it!

Here’s an interesting article from the Guardian, published last month, on amalgam fillings:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/mar/25/should-amalgam-fillings-be-removed

Pat x

Hmm, an interesting one this!

I always believed my dentist was a good and honest chap.

I did ask him, some years ago, about the possibility of old fillings causing MS. He said a defintie no and told me that some of his colleagues, in other surgeries, were removing old fillings…to make money dishonestly!!! So what do you make of that?

Now, as a lot of you know, I dont have MS, but a condition caused by mutant genes. Did mercury levels cause this? Dunno.

luv Pollx

Me again. Just wondering, is there anyone with a diagnosis of MS who has NO fillings?

luv POllx

I got my first filling 2 years after diagnosis, and it’s not a mercury one…

In Australia it has been standard practice now for about 25 years for children to have white fillings so on that basis no one under the age of about 30 should have MS here And of course they do…

Also we don’t use mercury as the preservative in vaccinations here either.

B

me again! belinda`s (Possum Saver) reply suggests mercury fillings dont cause MS.

luv Pollx

I have to post this response anonymously due to what I’m about to write. This is an interesting discussion and some interesting replies. Some of which I greatly agreed with and some that are actually factually incorrect. A member of my family is a research scientist and this is one of the things that they were testing in relation to mercury in vaccinations - particularly im the mmr vaccination. It’s worth pointing out to those that don’t know, the mmr vaccination did contain mercury up until a couple of years- as did most childhood vaccinations across the world, including Australia. So what they will be doing is more testing in about 25 years on the correlation to ms and other conditions in relation to mercury - as in the rise or fall of conditions such as ms since the mercury has been removed from vaccinations.

Interesting subject,I have a mouth full of fillings, everytime I went to the dentist in the 1970’s I got another one. I have 3 teenage sons and they haven’t got one between them. It was clearly a fiddle as I never seemed to need one, thought that was bad enough but to think there might be a link between this and MS, blimey!.

Peter

Actually, Thiomersal or mercury was removed from all childhood vaccines here in Australia in 2000 even though no evidence was found to support the hypothesis that the small amount of exposure was a medical risk. Children receive higher exposure through unavoidable environmental exposure anyway.Actually, Thiomersal or mercury was removed from all childhood vaccines here in Australia in 2000 even though no evidence was found to support the hypothesis that the small amount of exposure was a medical risk. Children receive higher exposure through unavoidable environmental exposure anyway.

http://ncirs.edu.au/immunisation/fact-sheets/thiomersal-fact-sheet.pdf

B

And I have no idea why that came out in duplicate

Sorry…

B

Relax Peter. There isn’t a link between fillings and MS. It is an urban myth that gets trotted out every so often on various Forums and probably sends a few of the more unscruplulous dentist’s bank managers home very happy for a few weeks. Don’t sweat it…

B

Actually while we are on the topic of mercury, who spent most of their childhood with bright red knees? Here in Australia Mercurochrome was probably the most commonly used local antiseptic on the market and just about every medicine cupboard in the country had a bottle. If you fell and grazed your knee you were automatically daubed with Mercurochrome. Teachers sploshed it around in the sick bay all the time if a kid came in after a tumble. It was bright red and stained the skin most impressively.

It was taken off the market in the early 90s due to its mercury content even though it only contained a trace of it. Even though there were never any reportings of mass mercury poisonings from it I am quite sure that 2-3 generations of Australian children got far more mercury in their systems via that route than from fillings or from vaccinations simply because of the vast quantities of the stuff that was used. But even so I have never heard of anyone having their MS linked to Mercurochrome poisoning here in Australia or in America where it was also widely used.

Was it used much in the UK or did you lot stick to the much stingier (and safer) iodine?

B

I might be playing devils advocate here but I was reading this thread and had a look at the link that you sent which actually says that mercury was removed from some vaccinations and traces are still present in some. It also states about mercury in fish - and seeing as I have never eaten fish in my life (allergic to it) - then surely people that consume a high amount of fish in their diet would also be likely to have ms due to the mercury in that! So I’m not sure that there’s enough evidence to support either way really- if mercury poisoning causes ms then people that eat fish as part of their diets (pespetarians I think they are called) then wouldnt there be a high number of them with ms? Wouldn’t that pattern follow suit?! I don’t know much about this subject but it’s interesting all the same and also there’s people with no fillings that have ms so how would they fit with this.

Oh and we had the horrible stingy stuff with iodine in it - still remember the stinging from it now!

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Interesting subject,I have a mouth full of fillings, everytime I went to the dentist in the 1970’s I got another one. I have 3 teenage sons and they haven’t got one between them. It was clearly a fiddle as I never seemed to need one, thought that was bad enough but to think there might be a link between this and MS, blimey!.

Peter

[/quote] Peter, l too ended up with a ‘mercury mine in my mouth’ [dentists comment] and l had them removed at the B/ham Dental Hospital 28yrs ago. No charge. The dentist who removed them firmly believed that amalgum fillings damaged peoples health.My GP - at the time -thought the same. He was about to retire - so was not concerned about any backlash he might have received for doing it. Problem is that most of the damage done is not reversible. l have spoken to several dentists since - younger ones - and they will not use amalgum fillings. Since having mine replaced with the ‘white’ ones l have not needed to have another filling. Before l had them removed my speech was very slurred - and l looked as if l had Bell’s Palsy or a stroke as one side of my face had dropped. And l could hardly walk. Afterwards, my speech and face returned to normal - and the problem has never returned.

l can only speak from my personal experience.