Try not to stress folks as it makes MS worse, and sorry to hear about your disappoinment with your fella Tina, hope life picks up for you.
Peter
Then all I will say is, expect to get the same treatment from the parents again. Bad behaviour can come from adults too, as you’ve clearly demonstrated. Point made, I’m off x
- Anitra, sorry that you’re feeling a bit down about the bloke , plenty more fish in the sea and all that .
I really wouldn’t let myself get upset about some daft woman on a till making a comment, she was just making conversation and undoubtedly assumed you’d take it as a joke.
There isn’t an excuse for bad manners but she may have worked a 12 hour shift, been tired or ill, had her own hidden disabilities, had other problems at home, I honestly wouldn’t consider reporting her, we’re all walking a hard road.
I’d just laugh and agree next time, or blame it on someone else in the household if that feels better !
- Pat – small children chase pigeons, and jump in muddy puddles and run through piles of just swept autumn leaves – that’s what children do.
If you’d have screamed and shouted at a child I loved and made him / her cry, I would have taken your photograph and reported you to the local police, for child abuse.
I don’t suppose you would have screamed and shouted at a local cat suddenly obeying its natural instinct and charging into a flock of feasting pigeons?
As other people have said, parents should absolutely make every effort to teach their children good manners and ensure that they are disciplined and pay heed to the needs of other people.
However, we also need to understand that some children have hidden disabilities which can mean that at times their parents will struggle to control their behaviour.
They won’t learn good manners and tolerance toward others by some harridan screeching at them because they followed their natural toddler instinct, unfortunately spoiled HER game, became excited and ran through a flock of podgy pigeons being overfed breadcrumbs in a park.
The breadcrumbs are magically processed by the pigeons into highly acidic droppings which, in addition to the damage they cause to buildings and the unsightliness of white splodges on pavements can also lead to Cryptococcsis, Histoplasmosis and Psittacosis in immune compromised humans.
I wouldn’t harm a pigeon and having found an injured one in the past, took it to a local wildlife hospital for treatment to a broken wing, but I certainly wouldn’t advocate feeding them in a public place, particularly not one frequented by small children with their immature immune systems .
It’s the Little Emperor syndrome isn’t it where children are treated as if they can do no wrong. What’s wrong with a bit of a shout at a child if he/she’s misbehaving?
Absolutely not, but a toddler chasing into a flock of pigeons is not bad behaviour - it’s the natural excited instinct of a small child.
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It’s the Little Emperor syndrome isn’t it where children are treated as if they can do no wrong. What’s wrong with a bit of a shout at a child if he/she’s misbehaving?
[/quote] It’s a parent’s responsibility to discipline their child how they see fit, not for some stranger to randomly scream like a banshee at a small (ie dependent) child who wasn’t even being ‘naughty’ by what I can gather from the comment - they were just doing what children do. How about I scream at Pat in a threatening way and make her cry for feeding the pigeons in the first place? No doubt the police would be called for that?! And don’t expect to go to a PARK and not have children PLAYING there!!! They have as much right to be there as you do! And Anu - loved your comments! Really, I don’t think certain people will agree with anything I say so I’ll do as the early posters said - don’t give head room to someone who I wouldn’t let into my house!
Maybe its the norm to allow small kids to ruin someones afternoon?
or For a stranger to give them an ear full?
Who knows or cares?
I know what you mean about cooking for 1 its impossible, most recepies are for 2 or more. The good old meal for one is the answer when your busy, but doesn’t give a jobsworth the right to pester you about it. To say “lazy few days” is taking the mick, can’t believe someone would judge so quickly.
Darren
I find it ironic that people who want others to make allowances for the fact that some people have “invisible” disabilities, don’t practice what they preach. There are many children who look completely fine but may have behavioural or learning difficulties etc. I always try to bear that in mind when I see a child misbehaving. Much like when I wobble out of the restaurant and get looks from people who think I’m drunk, these kids (and parents) are getting looks for things that are quite possibly not in their control.
For those of us with “invisible” illnesses, you’d think we’d be a bit more understanding.
And if anyone ever shouted at my child, I’d be fuming. It’s really scary for a small person to be shouted at by a stranger. You wouldn’t shout at an adult in the street who was doing something you disapproved of so why on earth would anyone think shouting at a child and intimidating them would be ok?
Could you imagine being shouted at in the street for something? It would be scary and embarrassing. Children feel the same way.
If you’ve a problem with a child then ask the parents to stop them doing whatever it is they are doing. But be classy and don’t act like a fishwife by roaring at them and frightening them.
Well said Meme, would the old boot who found it brave to scream abuse at small child have been so tough had she been without the husband and an adult run through the bloody pigeons.
Small children are naturally wary of adults, particularly evil hooting individuals who scream verbal abuse at them for having a good time out with mum in the park. She and her brave and gallant escort, had they been so distressed by the natural behaviour of an infant should have had a quiet word with the mother rather than bravely abuse the child.
And meals for one - there’s some excellent recipe ideas on here http://www.healthyfood.co.nz/recipe-collections/meals-one but I often don’t have the energy and resort to chicken (or fish, or veggie) DING done in 3 minutes in the microwave !
“would the old boot…” No need to go that far.
We dont know what the situation was, so instead of second guessing maybe keep on topic?
Darren28, the situation was described quite clearly in an earlier post. The poster then responded aggressively to a carefully thought out and reasoned argument to what I felt was inappropriate behaviour towards a small child. I agree this post SHOULD have stayed on topic. In fact I don’t think it was appropriate for her to post her obvious hatred of children on a forum for MSers requiring support in the first place! I found her comments offensive and upsetting and have every right to put across a defence.
Darren28, the situation was described quite clearly in an earlier post. The poster then responded aggressively to a carefully thought out and reasoned argument to what I felt was inappropriate behaviour towards a small child. I agree this post SHOULD have stayed on topic. In fact I don’t think it was appropriate for her to post her obvious hatred of children on a forum for MSers requiring support in the first place! I found her comments offensive and upsetting and have every right to put across a defence.
And as for quick meals…my fave is microwave rice, ready to eat chicken served cold and microwave veg!!! Ping ping, ready in a few mins and quite healthy too for those bad days.
People lose the moral high ground when they start calling people names from behind a computer, that is all. Why can’t everyone act like adults and agree to disagree?
I’ve been following this post without making comment but the more I read the more it saddens me it’s a bit like a schoolchilds argument!! I personally think I’ts got way out of hand, people are obviously starting to get wound up about it and I’m sure that can’t be good for us. Can’t the thread be now stopped before it gets too out off hand?? Just saying!
It’s embarrassing that you are so sure you are right about this…that you put pigeons, cats, whatever, over children (“brats”). Clearly not a mother, at least we can be thankful for that since you refer to them in such derogatory terms and have absolutely no idea as to how they behave or should be treated. Please keep your frankly rude and disgusting comments in your head. I have repeatedly tried to be sensitive and not upset anyone on this thread and it’s a shame the same can’t be said of you. I don’t particularly like cats for example (my huband despises them completely) but we wouldn’t refer to them in an equivalent term to ‘brats’ because we have more class. You’re a cat lady, yes? So when your cats are young do you train them with the litter tray and to behave, such as not to rip furniture etc.? And if they do wrong when they’re young (too young to know better) how would you feel about someone screaming and shouting at them and treating them in a way you consider harsh and excessive? Hmmmm… You obviously have NO IDEA about children, I’m guessing you we’re born old and were never a troublesome toddler (or course not!). And you won’t be expecting the children of today to fund your pension and benefits in years to come if you hate them so much? Children need time to learn manners, right & wrong, etc. and parents (with a few exceptions - that I admit) can only do their best. But if you ranting and raving is anything to go by, there are some poor adult examples out there which can completely derail any discipline those poor parents are trying to set. But someone as closed to constructive critism as you will never be willing to understand or accept anyone’s opinion if it’s not the same as your own. I pity you for that and I will not rise to your comments anymore because you’re just not worth it.
And I completely agree with Bambi and Darren…I will not be posting again on this thread because I honestly believe that Pat is deliberately trying to wind up and upset the parents on this board. I’m very sorry if I’ve upset anyone with any of my comments in the process of trying to get my points and opinions across. Take care all x