Needing to talk that's all

Hi I am Janice and been a member on here from before I was dz, but admit do not visit page as often as I should.life for past 5 yrs has been one struggle after another, not only with my health but family. 5 yrs ago mum had a brain tumour, which was removed successfully but just months later mum had a large stroke,while mum was in hospital dad was dz with cancer, my brother and sister took dad to his app and scans together, but on 11/4/2012 I was told it was my turn to take him, so was sent just me and dad, outcome of this app was I was on my own to be told dad had 12 weeks to live, dad opted for chemo even though his cancer was terminal, I do not know to this day how I get dad home who himself was ok without falling apart, dad started chemo 4 days later and within a week my dad faded from this big strong man to a man in constant chronic pain and sleeping most of the time, mum was home and had careers and I was there every day.

Dad eventually admitted to our small local hospital it was going to see mum then visit dad, the beginning of July 2012 my brother even being told dad might not survive till he came home went off abroad with his wife and kids, dad the very day after my brother left to go on holiday, slipped into sleeping all the time, and my sister, my very pregnant daughter and myself spent every day from morning till 10 pm some nights with dad, playing him music just being with him,Saturday 11 th July we were all so very tired we said we would have one day off, but something for some unknown reason made us go visit for approx 4 hrs, Sunday morning my brother due home late that night but had a drive from Manchester up home had still never even called once.

So got up later than usual on that Sunday and were going over to be with dad at 12:30. 11:30 my daughter called to say dad was still the same so I decided to go for a shower then we would drive to visit, got in the shower and as I got out at 12:15 phone ran and for some reason I had taken phone to bathroom with me, Dad had died at 12:10 pm alone. I quickly got dressed and sister daughter and me wet hair and all went to hospital, we spent the next hour with my dad but I was dead inside, felt so guilty we were late.

But my one thing I cannot and will never get over is on the Saturday before we left I kissed dad , held his hand and told him if he needed to sleep it was ok now just to do that and if he felt he had to go it was fine, kissed him and left, so I feel and have always felt guilty I told my dad to die, brother came home and was upset, but stepped in an my sister and him arranged the funeral, everything, I was not once asked what I wanted for dad. Well as time has gone passed my brother used to call me lazy and I did nothing to help mum, sister joined in and it’s been 3 years my brother disowned me calling me all sorts, then sister did the same.

I have struggled since then with depression, my husband treats me more like his sister than his wife, I am left with no friends and no family and have slowly been getting more and more down, I am not sleeping most nights even with sleeping meds, I got 2 hours last night as my body is either really itchy or burning, but always in chronic pain, no one seems to understand how much pain my body is in, I am not lazy I just cannot do what they can. But recently my brother was dz with ms too but guess what he’s in pain and tired and it’s such a shame for him having this terrible incurable illness, but not once have any of my so called syblings apologised to me as I was dz in 2008. But karma does get some of us, believe it or not I have tried to call to see if I can help but been told to f…k off b…ch. now it’s sorry to hear about your brother.

I am at my wits end not once did I complain trying to keep up with them all these years but I am still the bad one,the black sheep, and my husbands never touched me since I was dz, I feel so so alone and miss my dad so much , and mum too as mum now is bed bound due to a bad fall and dementia, but yes I am still the lazy one who does nothing, my motability car my husband has everyone told he bought it, I do not know how much longer it’s gonna be before I have a breakdown all together, my husband has a long weekend in Ireland every year but when I mentioned I would love a few days to relax at a spa I got laughed at and said who’s gonna pay that and get you there, he’s right cause I have no savings and would not be able to do this on my own. He said I will sit you in the shower for an hour , then you can lie in bed, so that’s my spa break… So so sorry to everyone or even anyone if they have got to the end of this message what became a novel, but needed to vent to some people who might understand what I am on about. Thanks j

Hi Janice

Believe me, I read every word and there’ll be others here who will read it as well. I read it with growing astonishment and awe. At the moment I’m going to let your story sink in before I reply in full because I need to think very carefully about what to say.

You’ve come to the right place to unload because there are a lot of people at this Forum who will also know what you are going through. This is just to let you know that I understand what’s happened to you and that I’ll reply in full tomorrow. It’s a lot to take in and I need to do it properly.

Be kind to yourself, Janice. Because no-one else is.

Yet.

Anthony

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Janice,

I have sent you a private message. Please look in your message box.

Anthony

hi janice

​what a lot of deeply disturbing events you have had in a relatively short period of time.

with so much going through your head and knowing how hard it is to find the right words, would you consider counselling?

your family relationships seem to be fraught.

anyway, take some time for yourself (live up to the ā€œlazyā€).

your ms must be in overdrive

carole x

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Janice, dear Janice.

I began reading your post, but had difficulty keeping my place. When anyone writes in one block, I do get muddled and wonder if you could break it up into paragraphs, please?

I will go back and read more. Please don’t be offended by my request.

I do try to support and help when I can.

Luv Polly x

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Hi again Janice.

Ive read your message in full now and oh my word! What a terribly difficult time youre going through.

Losing your dad so suddenly was a cruel blow and one that will take you a long time to deal with. You`ll never get over losing your dear dad, but time will ease the horrendous pain.

My mum and dad died within 3 weeks of each other and me and my 2 sisters were catapulted into the most terrible times.

It really would do you good to get away for some respite from all this ill feeling you are surrounded with.

I have carers, who take me out and on short breaks, to give my hubby a break from looking after me. It keeps us sane!

I pay for this via Direct Payments.

Would you be interested in doing the same?

You need a social services assessment first. it works well for me.

luv Pollxx

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Hello Janice,

Like Poll I don’t think I’ve ever come across a story filled with as much grief and sorrow as yours for a very long time.

About your Dad. If I were you, I would be grateful that I had had the chance to say goodbye as you did. You wrote Why feel guilty? You didn’t tell your Dad to die; you said it was OK. The selfish thing would to be to get angry that your father had died leaving you to carry on with out them. Not you; you said ā€œit’s OK nowā€. And that’s a very generous thing to do.

I know how it feels to lose a parent who is taken ā€œbefore their timeā€. My Mum died of a brain tumour when she was only 59. We had about six months to say goodbye. But it still took me around seven years to get the grief out of my system.

Your brother and sister seem to have assumed that you were fully equipped to deal with all the emotional fallout all by yourself.

I’ve really no idea why you were left out of the funeral arrangements. It’s natural to feel insulted by the behaviour of your brother and sister when you have taken so much on to your own shoulders. Trying to live up to demanding expectations as a ā€œblack sheepā€ is futile. Every time you reach a goal you’ll find the goalposts have been moved.

It’s time to cut loose from the guilt and build your own life.

Janice, I know I haven’t answered everything you’ve talked about but, please, stick with the Forum. There’s a lot of experience in here. And a lot of generous souls who don’t judge.

Yours,

Anthony

Summat I meant to say, Janice, when my mum was dying, she had been in hospital for 4 weeks. She had her 73rd birthday in there. She was surrounded by a big loving family, but was so totally worn down by a 13 year illness.

One day she asked me ā€˜How do you die?’ I found that a difficult question to answer. But I knew she was telling me that she’d had enough. So I told her it was OK to go to sleep and her mum would be there for her.

I visited her every day for weeks and sat with her for several hours each day. She was fully awake and alert. But oh so very tired. I even took her on little walks round the ward…me with my stick and gammy leg and mum hanging on to my arm!

She sadly died when I wasn’t there, but I know she would never have wanted me to see her go. No, I don’t think I would have coped.

Then dad died 3 weeks later, on his own in their flat. I often wonder how much he suffered on his own.

We do lose our parents, it’s natural…but that doesn’t make it any easier!

Look after yourself love…

Pollx

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aw janice

what a load of vicious, ignorant brutes have been around you.

what you need is to give yourself a day off.

relax and mourn your dad in peace.

i don’t know how to advise you other than to talk to the police.

wish i could say more.

sending you love and good wishes

carole x

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Thanks Carole police involved xxxxxx

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Hi Janice howz u? wow ! peaple ehh! if you can call them that!!

i so agree with all the replies

you need time out dude!! Think’n of ya pal!

Julien,x

ps, i wonder if your brother may ever find himself using these forums! kinda makes ya think