http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20709623
Welfare assessments for people with disabilities will be made later than originally planned, the government has announced.
From my understanding, the timetable for change is being extended for those on “indefinite” awards. This will certainly help those worried about renewing motability cars.
I’d be very surprised if PIP remains entirely unchanged from it’s present form after the first round of reviews.
There are some gaping cracks in the new system through which people who genuinely need help are falling.
from what ive read and heard so far, the government will make it near enough impossible for anyone to get the new pip payments, the new tests are deliberatly made to make sure the right people who need it cannot access it
I am not looking forward to all this no matter what time it happens… I get a email from benefits at work every month and they have said that they will bring in lie detectors for PIP which would be the most dumb thing ever as any drugs you may be taken effects the results of this…
I can’t seem to get onto the support group of ESA with 5 letters from doctors and neuros saying I am unfit for work now and for the rest my days, to them that means I am super fit for work… So is why I am dreading PIP so much… I hope it all gets dropped all together these greedy people that can’t even read doctors letter…
its just another chance to penalise us for bein disabled, they force us on demeaning assesments by liars, thieves and scam artists who could’nt even type up a true assessment even if there butts wwere on fire, they force us through hoops to prove we are disabled then tell us theres nothing wrong, making many people commit suicide or die because they are forced to work although there health conditions make it impossible, now they thing were greatful to them for putting back more torture and distress they want to force on us, hooking us to lie detectors like criminals, they may aswell kill me now because im gonna make it as hard as possible for them to screw me around coz ive had it bein made to feel less than nothing just because im disabled, no one asks for this crap to happen to us, so why the government targetting us, they are SUPPOSED to be protecting us from this hell
Too right Vicki
They do not know how to do there jobs… They say they will not go by uour condition but how you are day by day everyday… they do not even consider that MS is unprodictible every single day so that form will be stupid for us to fill out anyway… the truth is I really think they just want us all to go away so they don’t have to deal with us and they can save some more money… Take from the poor, give to the rich is the new goverments way…
Thanks for the info.
There is much scaremongering within the media and on this site with people saying that it will be near impossible for people to get this new benefit etc etc. The idea is to rid the system of the fraudulent claims. In no way would I want to defend what this Government is doing, but certain comments are only going to add further worry to us MS’ers.
I will certainly be turning to CAB and Benefits and advice website for help when the time comes.
im entitled to my opinion and ITS NOT SCAREMONGERING read the news, and the websites and to what they are telling us, you can live in fairy land if you wish, but id rather know the truth and get ready for it
All I know is that if it is the same people who have done the ESA, they have classed me as fit for work since May even with 5 nero letters saying I am not at all in anyway able to do any work for the rest of my life.
I would be v keen to know where you have read this and would be worried too if I read that , let us know ta!
You know the website that everyone on here praises so much who help people get there benefits? Benefits at work, guides you can trust.
As for ESA that is all very true and I have been dragged through hell with that one…
http://www.scope.org.uk/news/disability-living-allowance
in the 2nd scope link, its got the pip assessment but theres nothing for good and bad days, they will assess you on good days, therefore they will make the decision to go off that, theres nothing for unpredictable conditions such as ms.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmworpen/writev/1493/pip11.htm
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmworpen/writev/1493/pip21.htm
Oh I also got the info of they will go by how u are everyday and not the condition from the DLA adviser. It was also on the news when the paralymics where going on.
I posted again and again about how people in the WRAG would loose benefit after 12 months when they transferred to income related ESA. Basically I was told to shut up and stop scaring people.
Sure enough in April this year ESA claimants began to get notification that their money would stop. It wasn’t scaremongering just a portent.
Sometimes people post worrying things about benefits – surly it is better that claimants are aware that they have to put effort into the forms and be prepared to fight at tribunals. If I truly believed that the system just weeded out the unworthy I would sit back and relax. However there is ample anecdotal evidence that deserving people are expected to go back to work or are given the wrong rate of DLA.
I know it adds extra worry – I worry myself – but I will continue to warn people that getting disabled benefits is not a walk in the park and that the stated agenda of our government is to reduce welfare spending even if that means trampling over individuals who are genuinely sick.
Jane
agree with you Jane.i am scared too, i know what might happen,when i have to transfer,form IB to ESA and the dreaded pip, and i am just hoping i will be one of the lucky ones,some have no hassle at all,then theres people like Moogle star who are going thru h**l i think a bit of it is down to luck too, i might get someone to asses me,who has no idea whatsoever,or i might get someone who really knows their job,half of the time they havent go a clue,think they should just give us a b****y pill and have done with it,it stinks it really does.
jaki xx
Yes I agree Jane, i can’t believe people bury their head in the sand so much, but appreciate you never know what is happening in people’s lives behind the computer. As you say, so important that people get the right info.
This is not directed at anyone on this post, but I am frustrated when people make clearly incorrect statements without establishing the facts. But hey, we are all entitled to our opinions on here, whether right or wrong!
Unfortunately benefits are my wage these days and try and get through the mind fog to be as informed as possible.
Let’s hope we don’t all go through hell in the next few yrs!
Hello
A bit concerned that people feel that we may be hooked up to lie detectors.
I understand that 2 companies have this contract, ATOS & Capita & you will be assessed at either a hospital / health centre or at home, dependant on which company is assessing you. I cant believe that lie detectors will be used in these environments.
Is it likely that the assessments of ‘lifetime’ awardees (is that a word?) from October 2015 will be because the volume of people projected to appeal, coupled with the capacities within the Tribunal service to deal with appeals may be deemed to be too high to start in October 2013. This is based on the length that people say they are waiting or ESA appeals.
I understand from someone that all PIP appeals will be done directly to the Tribunal service and not through the DWP. The DWP will firstly re-assess all refused cases at the claimants request. The claimant will then, if not happy, appeal directly to the Tribunal service. It is possible that a high number of claimants will appeal, especially the lifeime awardees (that word again!!).
Is it possible that a company making money (£20 pa) out of people who worry about benefits may be laying the ‘seeds’ that the next area of benefits being assessed will be made harder with lie detector tests, and so getting more members ? I dunno!
It is true that modern technologies may make things ‘easier’ for msers & others with disabilities. My adaptations have helped me stay at work longer & live independantly but I have to pay more to maintain this level of independance (taxis, cleaner etc). I would hope this is seen and a relevant award given as a result.
s4ar
s4ar, I agree with everything you say. I think technologies have made things easier for me too and yes I am still in work also but as you say there is a cost to this. My mum currenty helps me with some jobs I find difficult, e.g. Hoovering but at 70 how long will she be able to keep this up. My mum doesn’t take money from me but if she gets too old to do this job for me then I would have to pay someone else. Because I can’t walk my children walk home from school with the local childminder, this works well but again comes at a cost. I could go and collect them by car myself but it is difficult to get parked at the school and I can’t get out the car to walk to meet them so the cost of the childminder is well worthwhile. As for lie detectors, we don’t really seem to have taken to the use of lie detectors in Britain. I personally can’t see them using lie detectors to asssess all (if indeed any) claimants and if they do, well so be it, there’s nothing to hide! Cheryl:-)