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Antibiotics and MS

Just read something interesting about MS and Antibiotics.

"The reason that antibiotics cause so many problems is they kill the healthy bacteria in our gut, and our healthy bacteria are needed to protect us from many problems. Once you’ve destroyed your healthy bacteria with antibiotics, numerous problems can take hold. The most common problem to take hold is candida overgrowth, and candida overgrowth can be at the root of numerous health conditions.

In fact, candida overgrowth can be at the bottom of headaches, acne, eczema, PMS, athlete’s foot, cancer, allergies, depression, chronic fatigue, vision problems, sinus problems, ear problems, rashes, hormonal imbalances, yeast infections, migraines, mood swings, symptoms of MS, irritable bowel symptom, constipation, poor memory, chronic pain, acid reflux and more."

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CNylvUmUsYIJ:www.naturalnews.com/027198_candida_antibiotics_health.html+antibiotics+aggravate+MS+symptoms&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

This is a bit more scholarly:-

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/163/11/997.full

Two ‘words’ to be wary of - ‘antibiotics’ and ‘us’.

I don’t know if you have ever had a bladder infection marcus; but sometimes Antibiotics are essential.

That is quite scary and something and something to think about. Do you think by drip would be better? I’ve had a lot by drip in hospital but now have a course of tablets to take.

Yvonne x

Hi Angel,

Could be as your bypassing the gut straight into bloodstream. That’s a pure guess by me; just don’t know sorry.

Gx

as a long term user of antibiotics thanks to pee infections, and a few weeks back an horrrendous chest infection ive had a look at coconut oil on the net and ordered some. even found a coconut oil forum which was interesting reading. i would love to get off the antibiotics as i know long term they are not good for us ( my doc told me that, but gave no alternative).

thanks for the links. x

Hi G

That’s what I was thinking, some Drs. seem to give antibiotics out like smarties to save them looking for a proper diagnosis.

Hi Zelda

I will be following you and looking into coconut oil and seeing if I can find anything else. There is a cookery book I fancy, Indian super spices

Love

Yvonne

Sorry, I am totally confused by your post. You are suggesting that use of antibitoitcs may cause candida overgrowth and then give two links to support your claim. Is that correct?

The first link is one of many candida links on the web but medically systemic candida is actually a very rare condition, not to be confused with Candidiasis or vaginal thrush which women do commonly suffer from after antibiotic treatment. Candida is one of those “diseases” of the web that quack doctors love selling to gullible people in an attempt to get them to buy all sorts of unneccessaery and worthless “cures”.

The second link however says the opposite of what you are saying and is actuall far more interesting. It says that people who have been users of penicillin appear to hace a reduced risk of developing MS. But that this is still a new area of investigation and warrants further follow up.

Can I suggest you read your links more thoroughly before posting them? But in this case I’m glad you didn’t because this is really interesting. All though not perhaps in the way you intended

“However, in all the analytical scenarios, more than 2 weeks of penicillin use was associated with a 50 percent reduction in the risk of MS.”

http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/163/11/997.full

And Yvonne, whether you take antibiotics orally or IV won’t alter the bacteria they kill. Broad-spectrum antibiotics are designed to kill a wide range of bacteria indiscriminately including “good” bacteria in our guts. Drs will sometimes take a sample of your infected tissue to identify the type of bacteria and then prescribe a targeted antibiotic, which will only kill those specific bacteria and not other harmless ones. The only benefit of taking antibiotics IV is that they work more quickly and they can be given at a higher dose so for a very severe infection it is the preferred route.

The best way to balance out and replace the “good” bacteria or flora in one’s gut after taking antibiotics is to take a course of probiotics.

And the most dangerous thing about antibiotics is not candida at all but their over use and there fore the emergence of antibiotic resistant superbugs.

Cheers all,

Belinda

Antibiotics used when essential have their role to play. yes they do kill the good bugs as well as the bad. One way to try and keep the good gut bugs happy is to eat live natural yoghurt when you are on antibiotics.

It makes sense to only take the antibiotics when essential. Likewise I think we are often given them at the point where our bodies would naturally be killing off the infection. How often do we have some problem and wait a few days before we go to see the doctor then when the illness is at its height we give in, we see the doctor we get antibiotics and lo and behold after a couple of days we feel as though we are on the mend and put it down to the medication whereas it’s highly likely we would have got better on our own.

I’m not saying this in relation to chronic infections which I think are a whole different thing.

With regard to candida, there are lots of stories but I do think avoiding dairy and refined sugars makes a lot of sense.

Trudie

I always knew antibiotics get rid of the infection and good bacteria as well out of our system, I dont at the moment take any longterm,

when I have been given any be is bladder of chest infection, when the course is finished, it would be a waste if I did this while in the antibiotics they would just kill the friendly bacteria,

them little probiotic bacteria bottlets you take everyday for about a week once youve had the antibiotics.

Al x

Attention Belinda,

Don’t shoot the messanger, i was only repeating what was printed in the article; if that confusses you take it out with them.

George

LOL George, you aren’t the messenger, you are the author of the post. You quoted one thing about Candida and then tried to back it up with another quote but that quote was contradictory. Interesting, more interesting in my view than your original assertation, but none the less contradictory to your postion on Candida.

You quoted a piece that said that using antibiotics could cause Candida which in turn could cause a myriad of symptoms including symptoms of MS. You then included a second link presumably to support your first quote. However the second link discussed a trial that showed that people who had used penicillin for 2 weeks had a 5O% lower chance of developing MS. As I said, contradictory to your original quote.

I found it confusing that you would choose to conflicting quotes, not to mention amusing. I did not find the your initial quote confusing. I just don’t agree with it.

Did you READ the second link in full? I suggest you do…

Cheers,

Belinda