Remember mrs h saying she was starting this, just wondered how it was going and if anyone else has any views. Thanks
Hi Zoe It’s not having any noticeable effect on my MS symptoms, in fact if anything, it’s worse. Been feeling dreadful and today has been awful but apparently I’m in relapse so am waiting for an MRI as they think it’s in my spine now. But I gave to say, that after two weeks on the diet I had to have bloods done and my liver enzyme had dropped by quite a bit. They think that the enzymes raised alarmingly high because of a pretty heavy duty antibiotic that I had to have. but who knows, the copious amounts of fruit and veg i was eating must have helped. At the end of the day, it is based on a very healthy diet but just a bit extreme in excluding dairy, eggs, meat and most carbs amongst other things. I do place utmost trust in my MS practioner nurse who has been an MS specialist for a long time and she is not convinced by diet theories either !!! But I went ahead and did it anyway because I’m stubborn and determined. I would say that I felt completely devoid of energy and just felt “flat” the whole time and really didn’t particularly enjoy doing it either. I didn’t sleep well the whole time and had terrible indigestion sometimes. So all in all, I think my initial scepticism remains !! I think a healthy diet full of fruit, veg, complex carbs, protein and dairy is the order of the day for me, with a treat (pizza or Chinese !!) at the weekend. I do believe, that unless you have a food intolerance or allergy, that the human body needs all of the food groups for different functions. I haven’t, as yet, seen or tried anything that has made a miraculous difference. But I’m an advertisers dream and I’m sure the next time something is touted as beneficial to MS, I will try it !! Catherine xx
Sounds like them swankers with the swank diet
LMFAO 's[filtered word]s at sw ankers
Yep…but as I said…advertisers dream that I am. Plus I was really worried about the old liver enzymes which had gone up to 466 !!! So I was willing to try anything. And can I just add…it’s bloomin expensive…my weekly shopping bill went up by about £30. And can I also say (and I am sure many of you who know me, will have already guessed !!) …I really, really, REALLY missed chocolate !!! Xx
Interesting story, but a bit off-topic (bear with me!)
Several years ago, my mum, despite being thin as a rake, was diagnosed as having very high cholesterol (more than 8). This was most likely a genetic tendency, as she did not eat, and has never eaten, a high fat diet.
Anyway, her mother had died young of a heart attack, so this very high cholesterol reading put the frighteners on my mum, and she had a knee-jerk reaction of immediately cutting out all dairy - NOT on advice by a dietician, or anyone remotely qualified.
Anyway, scroll on a couple of years, and Mum falls over, and breaks her ankle very badly. So badly, they needed a load of plates and screws to mend it. When they investigate, they find she’s got osteoporosis - probably thanks, at least in part, to her extreme diet leading up to the accident.
At that point, she becomes more scared of the osteoporosis, and potentially breaking something crucial, like her back - than of the high cholesterol, and possible heart attack risk. So she abandons the strict diet, and returns to a modest amount of dairy - now eating cheese and chocolate again for the first time in years, no longer rejecting food because it has a single teaspoon of mayonnaise - that sort of thing.
Recently, she routinely had her cholesterol checked again. It was down to six-point-something (from 8+) despite the fact she’s abandoned the diet, and is back to cheese and chocolate, and is not on any anti-cholesterol meds.
So all she appears to have achieved with her radical dieting is either to cause or dramatically increase her chances of osteoporosis, which in turn probably explains why she broke her ankle so badly. Meanwhile, the cholesterol has fallen by itself, even though she’s no longer dieting!
I wish upon wish she had never done it, as the broken ankle has been a bad setback for her, and has aged her almost overnight. She used to be able to go shopping in London all day, by herself. I doubt she will ever do that now - or even accompanied. I think if she hadn’t been so obsessed about the cholesterol, she might not have broken the ankle so badly, or at all.
So I think she’s an unfortunate example of the dangers of excluding whole food groups (except on medical advice). She seems to have caused another problem, but it’s questionable whether it ever helped the cholesterol, or whether the original reading was reliable in the first place, as it’s now a lot lower without the strict dieting!
I think extreme tampering with diet to address one problem is always at the risk of causing another. I wish, really, that she hadn’t had the original cholesterol test, and that nobody had said it was high. It frightened her into a disproportionate response.
Tina
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Agreed…poor Mum. The funny thing is, as a female, as someone who has had steroids and a hysterectomy, I was always a huge proponent of dairy…but I lost my way a bit and put some hope into this diet. I think we can all put misplaced hope into something when we need some hope from somewhere…hey ho…live and learn. Xx
Glad you saw the light MrsH, try anything once…etc
Hi Catherine
Do you know your Blood Group? If yes fantastic, if no best way is to become a blood donor or buy a blood test kit from Amazon though note these can be fiddley to do if you not a scientist!
You say the body needs all the food groups but if you look into what blood group you are you will be surprised to what foods you are currently eating are actually harming you.
I’m blood group A+ and this group suggests not eating any meat or dairy plus a number of other foods which I used to love but now omit from my weekly intake.
I read the book Eat Right for your Type and have followed it pretty much to the word but occassionally slip and have a slice of cheese cake or rump steak!!
I have done this for last 8 months and lost over 2 stone and more importantly feel so energetic I almost feel I don’t have MS at all.
Note I have also in the last few months been on the 5:2 format where you only eat 500 calories on two days a week, this also is quite liberarating and a great energy booster that I did’nt have before.
Please consider the above, and try it yourself. Hope it helps
Jimbo
Hi Catherine
Do you know your Blood Group? If yes fantastic, if no best way is to become a blood donor or buy a blood test kit from Amazon though note these can be fiddley to do if you not a scientist!
You say the body needs all the food groups but if you look into what blood group you are you will be surprised to what foods you are currently eating are actually harming you.
I’m blood group A+ and this group suggests not eating any meat or dairy plus a number of other foods which I used to love but now omit from my weekly intake.
I read the book Eat Right for your Type and have followed it pretty much to the word but occassionally slip and have a slice of cheese cake or rump steak!!
I have done this for last 8 months and lost over 2 stone and more importantly feel so energetic I almost feel I don’t have MS at all.
Note I have also in the last few months been on the 5:2 format where you only eat 500 calories on two days a week, this also is quite liberarating and a great energy booster that I did’nt have before.
Please consider the above, and try it yourself. Hope it helps
Jimbo
Hi all, I am 26 years old, 5 foot 8, size 10 clothes (weight loss since October last year where I weighed 12 stone 3, I now weigh 10 stone 8). 2 ish years ago I had an episode of optic neuritis and then an MRI which showed 5 pockets of fluid on my brain. Fast forward to February 2018 I had another scan which then showed 10 pockets of fluid. Since April 14th 2018 I have implemented a strict Anti inflammatory diet with 6 1 intermittent fasting (one day a week at random). Diet includes - Meat once a month as a treat Eggs and cheese once a week as a treat Red wine - up to 2 glasses only on a night out Anti inflammatory diet with Mediterranean influences, lots of oily fish. Extra virgin olive oil imported from Greece with high level of Polyphenols. I am being so strict but it doesn’t feel difficult as I know the end result. I have lost weight because of it. I also go to the gym 4 times a week as I am into fitness. I have always been into fitness so this is all not hard for me. Holidays regularly and getting as much Vit D as I can. Also taking multivitamins. 2000 Vit D daily, cod liver oil etc. My next follow up MRI is scheduled for November. I have read so much research on how the Anti inflammatory diet worked for so many where they have had no symptoms and have lived a full healthy life. The fact that I am incorporating it whilst I am young is a good too I think. Can anyone else shed light on whether any of these work. I will be expecting to only see 1 or 2 new pockets (or none) of fluid in November as this will show that it does work. I will update in November.