Put Disabled People With Indefinite DLA Awards ON P.I.P. Automatically

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bren

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I’m going to stick my neck out here - there are too many people in indefinate DLA that SHOULDN’T be!!! thats the whole point of the governments exercise surely? I think instead everybody that has an illnes that can be covered by a critical illness policy should be automatically put on/left on indefinately… This petition would help the ones who don’t need “indefinate” to stay on it!!

Hi, as much as I loathe that I and many of you too, will have to go through the PIP torture treatment, I guess if some of the cheeky cheaters will be caught, then we have to suffer, eh?

pollx

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Totally agree with this, it would make our lives so much easier for a change! All signed and forwarded to others!

CathyMid, thank you for making your point…I so wanted to sign this but I cannot bring myself to as I’m afraid i know someone who is always pointing out to anyone who will listen that she is on a " lifetime award" for DLA and that she will not get re-assessed but i can see that the rates she is on are clearly not justified. I put a post on here some months ago to ask what people thought of a persons eligibility for certain rates of DLA and used this person as an example ( not using any persons name of course ) and whilst most replies were sensible and reasonable, one reply was very vicious calling me all sorts of names insisting I was jealous and a coward…what a joke!! I’ve never tried to claim any benefits as I don’t feel I am unwell enough at the moment to qualify for anything, so why would I be jealous and I certainly don’t think of myself as cowardly. Getting back to the person in question, I am in a position to see her almost daily and I know she claims high rate mobility and middle rate care, has a motobility car and her husband gets carers allowance. There is no way that she suffers any sort of mobility probs and she certainly doesn’t need any personal care. The trouble is that about 5 years ago she had a bad relapse and couldn’t work for 4 months, was awarded indefinate dla just on the basis of this relapse, but then went onto Tysabri which she has had for a few years…this has helped her miraculously which is great for her BUT she still claims these rates of DLA. Yes she has a critical illness payout also which was very substantial and which she is thoroughly entitled to and I have absolutely no argument about that as she has every right to it. I do blame the system as I don’t know if it’s right for someone to be awarded indefinite DLA on the strength of one relapse. She obviously does not think that she should declare any improvement to her medical condition. There are quite clearly a majority of people who undoubtedly qualify for the rates of DLA they’re getting and the fact that they have an indefinite award but I really don’t think that ALL the people should go onto PIP automatically without question. I’m sorry if i have upset anyone but it’s just the way I feel.

l am sure l read this week on the directgov site - that if you are getting DLA and are over 64 - you automatically stay on it. So hopefully l will be OK. l get the higher rate mobility - but low rate personal care - which l should change - as my circumstances have changed since l was first assessed 25yrs ago. My severe disablement will cease once l get my state-pension.

Following CathyMid and Poll I have to add a dissenting voice too.

I am not signing this petition because I think it is tilting at windmills. The government has decided that many historic DLA applicants on indefinite awards no longer need it. In other words their condition has improved but they have failed to report a change in circumstances. I don’t know how accurate this is (Knowing IDS I suspect the numbers are small) but it will be impossible to change their minds – too much has been said, too much posturing and promise making.

I would prefer to throw my weight behind something that makes reference to the fact that certain conditions will never get better. Staying the same is the best that many people can hope for. Once people with these degenerative conditions have been successful in PIP and ESA applications there should be no reason to reapply.

I was last examined for DLA over a decade ago. I am much worse now but I know that the DWP will never feel comfortable about my award until they have looked at me again.

I can understand the sentiment behind the petition – but there is next to no chance of it being successful even if it were to garner thousands of signatures.

Jane

I have signed although I do have reservations.

I have PPMS but have never been given the indefinite award. My first award was for 2 years, then I had a 3 year award, now I’m on a 5 year award (ending 2015).

As I have a ‘progressive’ condition (the give-away being in the name) with no treatments, let alone a cure, it seems like the ‘indefinite’ award is somewhat random. Maybe to do with what sort of day the DWP worker is having… I don’t know why but it seems a bit odd to me.

I would have preferred it if the petition had been that people with incurable, chronic conditions, backed up with consultant’s letters, should not have to have the medical for PIP.

However lots of people on here do have indefinite awards (and rightly so) and I’m willing to sign anything that puts the goverment in a difficult position regarding the new benefit.

Long explanation of why I signed… and hope it makes sense.

Pat x

Signed it.

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Thanks for sharing. Definately signed. It’s scary the thought of losing my Dla. It’s bad enough staying in the support group of ESA without them taking our lifetime award of Dla!

This is a brilliant idea and it will probably save money.

I have signed the petition, but sadly I think the government have a fundamental problem with ‘indefinite awards’ and, therefore, I don’t think it stands any chance of being adopted.

Best wishes anyway.