Hello,
I have been working part time for NHS for approx 2 years I have been on sick leave with my MS symptoms. NHS are looking at signing me off under ill health grounds I want to know if I would get a pay out if I am signed off by NHS?
I have been paid the time I was on sick leave
Thank you
Crazy Chick
I was paid off by NHS 6 yrs ago due to onging illhealth… I certainly didn’t get any payment to be honest I hadn’t even considered it. Guess I saw it more as being sacked as it wasn’t a voluntary redundancy where you may expect a payment.
I dont think there are any rights to an automatic payout, they would in effect be terminating your contract due to your inability to complete your contract of employment. You would be eligible for payment relating to any contractual notice period. where it gets trickier is if you have 2 years service in the NHS pension scheme and as part of the ill health retirement you/Occ health want to apply to the scheme for early payment of benefits, which has 2 tiers, but under the latest scheme does not include any lump sum.
Hope this helps
JC
Thank you for your replies makes sense. People were telling me that I should off been paid a lump sum etc so I had to ask the question.
Once again thank you 
I asked my nhs employer to terminate my contract which meant they had to give me three months notice in lieu, which was three months pay, plus any holiday pay they owed me. I had worked for sixteen years with them, but I thought that after two years you were allowed more in terms of benefits.
Hiya. I took ill health retirement from the NHS 18 months ago after being off sick for 12 months. I was unable to continue to carry out my work or even drive my car to get there.
I’d been working for them for 10 years and I know that if you have been paying pension for 2 years you would be eligible to apply for ill health retirement. Are you paying into the pension scheme?
Shazzie xx
Hi, i work for the NHS and am currently on the redeployment list until july. If nothing comes of it, how do I go about retirement through ill health via the pension scheme? I’ve worked in the NHS for seven years
Have you got a union rep? I would get in touch with him/her. They will help you make sure you include everything in the application. Get in touch with the pensions department at work and explain your situation and they will arrange the forms for you. Good luck!x
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Hiya. I took ill health retirement from the NHS 18 months ago after being off sick for 12 months. I was unable to continue to carry out my work or even drive my car to get there.
I’d been working for them for 10 years and I know that if you have been paying pension for 2 years you would be eligible to apply for ill health retirement. Are you paying into the pension scheme?
Shazzie xx
[/quote] Hi shazzie, Don’t mean to be nosey but did you manage to get the higher or lower payout. I got the low one initially and I am about to reapply as my situation has worsened. Thanks Hun. X
Hi, yes I’ve got a union rep. I’ll call her and ask her advice. Thanks xx
One of the most important things you should be doing is hooking up with your Occupational Health unit and they are the ones that should be doing the report to kick off the ill health retirement. What you need to be able to demonstrate is that you have tried all possible treatments to help keep you in work and within work, with your employer, you have tried all reasonable adjustments, again to keep you in work. In terms of the ill health process your Occ health clinician will be crucial and within the process you have to be able to demonstrate in line with the “civil burden of proof” that you cannot work and that there is no prospect of you being fit for work of the same standard between now and your normal retirement age. This civil burden of proof sounds quite frightening but in essence its been described to me as a 51% balance of probablities given the evidence that is presented and it is the robustness of the evidence that is key.
Hope this helps a bit
JC
I have an appointment with Occ Health tomorrow. It’s the firsttime I’ve ever had anything to do with them and I don’t know what to expect. I know I’m seeing one of their doctors and where it is but that’s all. I know my boss was going to as them about ill health retirement but at 49 I feel I’ve got a little bit more in me or I want the opportunity to try at least. I work in a special needs school and although I understand I can no longer work with the little ones because of balance and being unstable etc I think I would be ok with the seniors. (the majority being bigger than me!) After 19 years there I feel as if I’m just being dismissed because I can no longer in their eyes do what they want me to do. There is no pay off or anything and I need the job and the pay. There doesn’t seem to be anyone to talk to and I haven’t had much information or help from the union. Who do I turn to next?
Hiya
You are not being nosey. I remember how stressful it was.
I got the higher rate. A lump sum and a small monthly amount for the rest of my life.
It all went straightforward.
PM me if you need any more info.
Shazzie x
Hi, just a couple or so of weeks ago, there was a post about ill health retirement.
I dont know if the NHS is very different from the local authority,but as far as I`m aware, it must NOT come from you, the employee, to ask for IHR.
The way it goes is that you have to be on the sick for some months and a doctor of your employer`s choosing, examines you to decide if he thinks you are fit to continue in the role you were employed to do. If the answer is no, then OH look to see if there are any vacancies you may be suitable for.
Again, if he answer is no, you are offered IHR.
Leaving work this way, entitled me to double the usual pension…which consisted of a lump sum and a pension.
I would urge anyone thinking of leaving work this way, to be very careful what they say and who they talk to at work.
My experiences only…
pollx
You are right there Poll.
I wasn’t examined by a doctor though. I had three telephone assessments and I had to send in proof of diagnosis and recent clinic letters.
The inidividual don’t actually apply for IHR, Occ Health are usually the ones to start it off after a period of sickness. You do have to prove that all adaptations have been done firstly.
Shazzie xx
Thanks for that Shazz.
pollx