Pam Bartha Live Disease Free

Has anybody tried the Pam Bartha programme.? She claims to have cured all her symptons by treating parasites that she claims are the real cause of MS.Its interesting stuff but she does charge $2000 for the programme.

If you aren’t the spammer, then the person who told you about this is. There is no cure for MS and I hope there is an extra special place in hell for people who say there is and have the audacity to charge for their lies. Taking advantage of vulnerable people is the lowest of the low. Sorry Duffy.

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I breed unicorns, if anyone is interested in a new pet.


Do I have to mortgage my house to get one??

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You will, but they also cook, do the housework and are quite good on the karaoke, so think of it as lifestyle investment.:blush:

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I didn’t say she cured the disease but her symptons.She offers quite compelling evidence that MS is an infection caused by parasites.Plenty of her work on YouTube.

They don’t know what causes MS, most likely because many things can trigger it. Anything that causes prolonged inflammation is a potential candidate, leading to an autoimmune reaction which may have come out of random mutations in antibodies, which then attacks cells in the locations that fits a pattern that is called MS - so may include viruses, parasites, inflammatory diet etc. What they are beginning to learn from Covid and about long covid may spill over into a better understanding of the process of autoimmune disease, including MS. There was a fascinating paper I learnt about the other day.

As for curing MS. Is CIS actually cured MS? Is so called ‘benign’ MS, (where someone has a few relapses and remissions and then everything settles and there are no further relapses) cured MS? People like that do exist. The brain is very good at repairing or building new connections. The spinal cord however is much more limited in its reserve, and much harder to repair, and why those with MS with mainly spinal lesions tend to have a worse prognosis.

Terry Wahl managed to reverse her MS with a very strict diet, which she shares on her web site or in her book. Mathew Embry of Hope MS also figured out a diet (rather similar) that has kept him symptom free for 25 years (and shares that info freely). I’m always wary of people who want to make a lot of money out of illness of others - this seems particularly prevalent in the US though. In the same way I am angered when knowledge (eg some medical journals) is restricted to those who can pay for access.

I had a look at the web site and I have to admit it did raise my hackles a bit. She dismisses every single diet except her own. There is an arrogance that I didn’t like. Most of the diets have a great deal in common with the one she proposes and with each other! What has been learnt from Tim Spector’s extensive gut biome research is that no two individuals are the same. Food that is very inflammatory for one person may not be for another. What they also discoverd is that a very varied diet with lots of different vegetables, nuts, fruits (at least 30 different ones in a week) and avoidance of heavily processed foods correlated with better health generally, and that the gut microbiome was much more diverse. I doubt her diet is the superior one - it may be that it was for her, but not necessarily for others.

Inflammation and oxidative stress seems to lie behind almost every disease. Reducing inflammation and oxidative stress is very likely to be beneficial. Herbs, supplements, a diet that suits the individual’s microbiome can reduce inflammation and oxidative stress. It is something that can be done relatively cheaply too, and in my view something that is worth trying (and actually which I do myself).

I’d suggest you read through carefully her web site and then do a lot of checking elsewhere. My guess is you can figure out a programme very similar to try for yourself without forking out the rather extortionate fee. If money is no object then you can always try it, but go into it with your eyes very wide open …

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I was diagnosed 12 years ago. But I’ve only recently decided to discuss things with others.
When first diagnosed I spent a lot of time and effort researching the disease intensely and especially focusing on things that might limit the progression of symptoms.
I’ve never come across Pam B, but I did come across other similar people. These people said, essentially, that if you ate a very limited and careful diet then that would help or rid of the symptoms (or at least prevent further myelin damage, which is what causes the disability). Some of these people were willing to help in return for money, some were doing it without asking for money. I felt that these second category were likely doing it because they strongly believed in their theory. So they meant well.
The problem is that MS is such a tricky disease and there is no cure; I don’t think that what works for one person will necessarily work for another. I’m not commenting on Pam B as I’ve not come across her previously, but none of the things I looked into have been confirmed by properly set up randomised control trials…i.e. by the medical gold standard for testing. To give you an example form my own experience…. Low Dose Naltroxeone? I took it for maybe 5 years after being diagnosed because I had heard that it was a little known cure. But I had relapses, so I don’t think it works, for me at least. But others swear by it. Not all GPs will prescribe it because it’s not been clinically proven to work.
But there is one thing that I have found which does seems to help a bit, and it’s also v cheap and readily accessible and does not require any sort of restrictive diet….high strength Vitamin D. This can be obtained via sunlight (ideally) or a supplement (it seems it also needs to be taken with something to help absorb it like cod liver oil). I’ll set out below why I think there’s something in this,

  • MS is a lot more common in countries with limited sunlight…e.g. there’s much more of it in Scotland than in Sicily.
  • BUT there are also some northern countries that don’t have much MS…Japan and some Eskimo societies. That’s weird as those places don’t have much sunlight either. However, they DO eat a lot of fish and guess what……fish contains a lot of Vitamin D.
  • Many people seem to find the most common time of year for relapses is in the spring and early summer. This is maybe odd because there’s more sunlight then. But again perhaps the answer is that the body has been starved of sunlight/vitamin D over the winter months and so vitamin D levels are lowest in the spring/early summer, not yet having been replenished by the sun?
    There’s an informative book that I came across (and no, I’m not the author nor associated with it in any way)…….”The Vitamin D Solution: A 3-Step Strategy to Cure Our Most Common Health Problems”
    Don’t misunderstand me…I don’t agree with everything in this book and nor am I saying Vitamin D cures MS. No doubt it affects different people in different ways. My experience of it is that it has reduced the frequency and severity of my relapses since I started taking it in high doses. But I still have some relapses. Maybe it is a coincidence……that is quite possible.
    After being diagnosed I felt for some time that I was so lost and had nobody to turn to, plus I was weirdly ashamed and so was left with just me and the internet (not a good combination!). So maybe this will be of some use to you…maybe it will be worthless! But I’m putting it out there just in case it might help….good luck!
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