I read jelinek’s book. His mother had MS. His one and only symptom was a numb foot for a few days. He had an MRI and one lesion was seen. From this he got the MS dx. When i read it I thought - how on earth did he satisfy the McDonald criteria for a full on MS dx! I had more than that and it took 6 years for them to diagnose me!
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I wont have the Mail or Express in the house But then I only buy one paper a week for the TV pages
I am looking at several Youtube clips re MS I am thinking of eating more fish and less dairy products ??
Don
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The ‘multiple’ bit does seem to be missing in that case!
OK, let’s be absolutely fair … …
I quote from the very end of the Daily Wail article:
“Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis (Allen & Unwin, £16.99) by Professor George Jelinek is published this week. To order a copy at the special price of £13.59 (valid until July 12), call 0844 571 0640 or visit mailbookshop.co.uk. (P&P free on orders over £15).”
Amazon have it already. They also offer a large number of books by Jelinek.
No-where does he claim to cure MS, merely to overcome it. And if this has you thinking, look at:
https://overcomingms.org/community/event/gawler-foundation-retreat-may/
and note that the Gawler Cancer Foundation specialise in “retreats” where you can overcome your cancer. Of course, they do not claim to cure anything either, but the promotion for one of their “retreats” says this:
“10 nights. Siegfried Gutbrod, Paul Bedson, Maia Bedson and Dr Craig Hassed teach lifestyle practices to promote healing, create inner peace and restore clarity.”
Draw your own conclusions
Geoff
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In other words, it may help you with your overall health, and you may feel better in yourself, but in terms of curing anything it’s a load of ballcocks!!
Sue
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It seems that there is an inclination in some, to muddy the perception of what is (to me at least) a valuable resource to those with MS, by dwelling on semantics. This is unfortunate i think.
But yes, the strategies promoted by Jelinek do (from personal experience) ‘appear’ to help promote an optimal quality of life. But in terms of being a cure, making you attractive to the opposite sex, or increasing your chances of winning the lottery… it is indeed a load of bollocks. Lucky then, that it claims none of these things.
Whilst the Daily Fail might wish to end the article by promoting the myriad ways by which people wanting the Jelinek title for their own library can spend some money, i will end this post by simply leaving this here:
www.overcomingms.org (a free resource - of specific interest is the ‘recovery program’ tab and then the left margin links to the info)
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His own outlook, but written in a book. Must be the best overcoming p.p.m.s i’ve heard of, as he was in his mid forties when dxd, but sure there’s some m.sers who sneak through the cracks. Daily mail have promoted the book, so someone will buy it based on the article. The placebo effect will beat any book, spoken word, as it’s the owners own thoughts. Whatever their beliefs if you wish to live in fantasy then that’s totally your entitlement.
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Not so much “dwelling on semantics” as much as “weasel wording”.
A few years back, Jelinek came to the UK and gave:
- a 1-day seminar on OMS somewhere on the South Coast at £70 per ticket (for PwMS)
- an afternoon talk up in East Anglia for the caring profession at £40 per ticket.
Someone popped up on here (a VERY new member at the time) to ask who was going to hear this wonderful speaker (cost not mentioned).
Me, I am somewhat cynical; every time there is a post that looks like a marketing ploy, I click on the member’s name to see how many days since they joined. This can be quite revealing.
Geoff
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A very good idea.
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Was it worth reading Moyna?
Cynical?? heaven forbid any of us are cynical I am way past cynical so far away it is way behind me and over the hill. I was once told by my specialist that I could fill my days chasing cures and diets or just get on with my life and enjoy life. Guess which one I chose yep the one that includes bacon sarnies and fish n chips.
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I used overcoming ms a lot when 1st diagnosed,its a good read and its what most people will tell you to use,high vit d,omega3,sun,exercise etc.Check out The healing code by dermot o connor,he has/had ms and used a lot of the same principles.Tai chi he says helped him a lot with balance and relaxing.We have so much news here with charities swindling cash,st john of god charity and console a suicide counselling charity.Few morr charities being investigated.
On another thread I was telling folk that my Mum had terminal lung cancer and a family member, in their wisdom, told her there was a guy in County Offaly in Ireland had a “cure” for cancer for 45 euro - the mind boggles…
Plenty of quacks out there with cures for everything.I went to a guy a few years ago and he done this ritual on me and said i dont have ms.Charged me 50euro,i had a relapse few months later and still have ms…Sorry to hear about your mum
It’s everything that is out there anyway but very helpful. They forget to tell you that he has used DMDs.
I was on the OMS page on Facebook. It was really good. It had some really good ideas and very positive and upbeat but then they started telling everyone that they couldn’t discuss anything outside of OMS i.e. MS, which I found ridiculous, so I and quite a few others left.
There are a lot of books out there which are extremely helpful and just as good.
Hi all,
Have not been on here for a while, I certainly wont be buying his book. Like people say its basic common sense to follow what he says. Im afraid there no cure in sight yet. We just have to stay positive.
kielyn
I must admit i had a wtf moment when i read that. The thing is if he was only recently diagnosed, he could after 7 years simply be in a phase of the disease which has gone quiet. I had my first symptom in 2000 when i went blind twice, which was never picked up as MS jeez if i had been rich i would have been diagnosed in 6 days lol.
Six years later i had my next really bad attack.
I think diet always plays a part in chronic illness. Its not rocket science if you have a delibating disease dont poke the hornets nest with fatty sugary, alcohol, nicotine diets.
I eat loads of fatty fish, rarely eat beef only about twice a year. I eat mainly fish, rice, fruit etc. Still got MS though.
His mother went down hill after 16 years, i think if anyone really did the research on her, being thrown through a windscreen of a car, is going to leave disabilities, and perhaps she had more going on then MS. I find once your saddled with an MS diagnosis no matter what happens after its down to your MS. The doctors stop looking for anything else. One of my friends was really sick with pain and it turned out she had gall stone stuck in gallbladder, and because she had MS the doctors totally put it down to the HUG.
I dont think he has found a cure, like Swank, he is just telling everyone to eat well, not to stress and exercise.
Well i would excercise please tell me how too lol…i can barely walk. Although I have decided to try swimming.
Anyway wouldnt life be wonderful if we got diagnosed in six days, (one day off for rest), instead of TEN YEARS like the rest of us mortals lol.
Hi folks
Sorry I missed this post early on, I won’t have Daily Mail/Express or the Sun in my house either but I did read George’s book not long after dx around 10 years ago. Yes it’s a very difficult diet to live with. I tried for a year and had a relapse, so went on to Betaferon and ate normally. I started back on the diet a few years later. I’ve stopped using Betaferon now; as I’m S/P. But my last 2 MRIs have been clear of any new lesions.
If nothing else it has kept my weight down and is a very healthy way to live. I do have a treat now and then but try and steer clear of food with additives in it.
It has helped with fatigue as most of my food is low in saturated fat. (Especially cutting out dairy).
Some of you cynics need to read the book before you write it off.
I also think that going back to church and using relaxation techniques such as reflexology and mindfulness can also help, as well as vitamin D3 what ever it takes…
(My neuro completely ignored me when I started talking about vitamin D3 and now that it’s scientifically proven that people with ms don’t absorb D3 as other’s do. Neurologists have had to recognise this).
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Good for you - glad to read you are feeling the benefits of living a healthy life. One point of the OMS programme is to take medication if you want / need to. Stay well.
Exactly.
I had:
ON
3 lesions
dodgy LP
and then after 10 years of test i had another bout of ON, and finally a diagnosis of MS.
A lesion doesnt mean MS, it can mean other things as well.