Food and MS

Everyday living
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Hi everyone

This is a question for everyone and some random information too.

I was at the dietician last week at the rehab centre and we were speaking about foods and balanced diets where she was speaking about how oily fish are good as well as different types of fats. Then we spoke about the Terry Wahl diet? Have any of you read her book Minding my Mitochondria. I’m not sure what to make of all the diets going about, like everything there are plus and minuses to everything.But I was fascinated with the way the book was written out how it describes all the vitamins etc and what they are used for.

I had the espon barr virus 7 years ago, ironically i got it just before my wedding and missed my wedding dance and I had my first ms attack the week after i told my husband we should split up ironic.

Anyway I developed mild chronic fatigue after the virus and took 9 months to kind of get back on par though never quite what i was What was interesting was i developed IBS after it and I paid for the YORK test which came back with quite a few allergins mainly the usual subjects dairy, gluten, not so usual lettuce, tuna amongst a few other things. I was so fed up of feeling off I cut these things out as well as that they did stuff with Candida also. And i honestly felt better. I then took a job with a food company dealing with manufacturing fish to the large retailers tesco, costco and i did feel much better as I was constantly sampling fish. Though mackerel at 8,30 in the morning could be tiresome.Was much more fun working at the company that produced cakemixes and uht puddings. Trialing all the finest ranges of panna cotta against our product was a great job haha.

Anyway loosing track of where i am. Cant decide if thats MS or hunger.

Random fact for anyone who purchases mackerel Tesco value mackerel is exactly the same product as the Standard mackerel range apart from the fact that there isnt a set size of fillet, so may have different size fillets. But with the more expensive product they have to be within a set weight per fillet. Well i dont know about you but i’m quite capable of cutting them up to dish them out evenly.

Second in the summer and with certain products they do fresh mackerel with a marinade. This is excellent just lightly cooked it can be microwaved or is divine bbq’d though not in this weather. If you serve it flaked through rice it is a healthy, cheap nutricious meal.

What i can say is dont eat frozen meals stuffed with ‘cheese’. There is no cheese lol. No wonder there are so much illnesses now adays. We are not designed to eat half the crap that is produced.

Through the last 6 months I have found that the energy to prepare large meals is tiresome if i want to do anything else. And i’m guessing that is a similar complaint with lots of us. Luckily i arrive at mums and have dinner but i would like to get back to a bit of normality.

So where am i going with this well i’m not sure but feel free to discuss any of the points i’ve made.

I personally think there is a connecton with food and some illnesses nowadays. But having an illness such as ms can make it hard to eat the ‘right’ foods.

The supermarkets are very into the ‘latest’ foods. They love using antioxidants etc etc buzz words are great.

Terry wahl speaks about the important of kale, etc.And she does include chicken etc but stresses using organic though it kind of applies to everything organic.

I suppose the question I ask is if there were prepared meals containing only organic product and everything we ‘need’ to be healthier would you purchase it? Since there are over 100,000 of us we’re a large target market. But its not just ms. I have friends who have cancer who have completely changed there diet so its not just us. But obviously when your ill, and have jobs family life, limbs that dont work its hard to fit a complete diet change.

Please feel free to add your comments. I’ll also add i was a dancing teacher until last year and most importantly a mum so this is me just thinking not promoting anything. Though my dads a pelagic fisherman catching mackerel and herring so please feel freee to eat as much as you can.

Em x

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Blimey thats a long one

I don’t buy into the organic stuff or eat lots of frozen cheesie/meals.

Tonight I had 4 lamb chops with broccoli, carrots and peas with roasted potatoes covered in garlic, rosemary and goose fat
and lashings of mint jelly and gravy.

Just drank 2 litres of welches black grape juice also (low sugar) as I’m also a type 1

Now munching on a snickers. (not low sugar)

I do eat alot of oily fish smoked salmon etc and love them pickled herrings in a jar you get from waitrose or ikea under the abba label, don’t do roll mops there nasty and sour.

I also had a dietitian once but gave up on it as its all kinda obvious with what she was saying and alot was not relevant, I don’t go in for diets that are ment to be geared for MSers like Swank etc.

I steer clear of mac donalds etc but sometimes have a sausage and egg muffin on the way to sailing, not had a donna kebab in ages though I could kill one now with extra garlic and chilli sauce.

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Yeah I’m no angel since my steroids in nov I’m addicted to chocolate. I think I’m going to need to buy a gag lol. Em x

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I’ve been reading about the link between diet and MS, in particular cows milk. I’ve just started reading about one MS diet which I just don’t think I could stick completely to http://www.overcomingmultiplesclerosis.org/html/blob.php/Program%20Overview%20Pocket%20PDF%20v5.pdf?attach=false&documentCode=11098 To answer your question, I’d love a healthy ready meal with everything I need on days when I am too tired to cook. I do make a lot of home made veggie soups, which last a few days and which I love. I do have a problem that I don’t really like oily fish, but I was taking a fish oil supplement for years to overcome this before I was diagnosed.

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The URL given by Puddinglover traces directly to the Jelinek diet and OMS. Browsing the OMS website, it does look to me like Jelinek is trying to out-do Terry Wahls. There is a big plug for a “Retreat” on overcoming MS at this wonderful centre that specialises in showing people how they can cure themselves of cancer.

Of corse, when you get down to it there is very little to choose between the Wahls diet (but not the Wahls Protocol) and the Jelinek diet, or the Swank diet, or the McDougall diet, or the Budwig diet … … Tweak the basic diet a little and:
“Just buy my book and find out how to cure yourself”

If there was any real before and after evidence for most of these diets (like MRI scans) it would be easy to sort out which one worked (if indeed any did). But, just to take one example, Roger McDougall died some years ago, so no-one can ever prove if he just had a long relapse. His diet is still promoted by a website that is only interested in dietary supplements and CCSVI - and which is supported by a division of the world’s largest manufacturer of dietary supplements.

As a neuro said to me, once, “It’s all about the money”.

Geoff