Newbie - hello everyone!

Hello all. I’ve just registered with the forum, having been a browser for a couple of months now. I hope you don’t mind but this will be a bit of a long post but i thought it better to say it all at once!

After seeing my GP in October, it was suspected by her that I might have MS and I have been on the road of investigations since. Although I’ve experienced several symptoms for years - such as pins & needles, numbness, fatigue, restless legs, stiff muscles, brain fog etc - I’ve never sought any help as i just presumed that was just the way I was! I didn’t even think to question things 5 years ago when a Physio told me that my entire nervous system was “completely inflamed” - she just told me to take ibuprofen every day, ha!

Anyway, the reason it came to my GP’s thoughts was I had an eye test a few months ago and i complained that I’d been experiencing central vision loss in one eye and now and again, some pain. The optician couldn’t see any issue and thought it might be vascular so wrote to my GP. My GP did a wide range of blood tests but the only thing it has picked up is slightly low iron. I also had blood pressure tests and no issues. I was then she thought about MS. MS was something that had never crossed my mind but when she read out the list of symptoms, i could definitely identify with a lot of them.

I was referred to an ophthalmologist for a better look at my eye (still waiting for that appointment) but I saw a neurologist yesterday.

As I had very helpfully read on this forum (which I have to say is such a fantastic source of information and reassurance, thank you!), I took with me a brief history and list of symptoms to pass to the neurologist. During the consultation, I tried to pass this to him but he said he didn’t need it (his bedside manner wasn’t the best!). He asked me to just talk through what was going on so I started with what had started this off - the sight problem, which i’d only ever experienced this year since the summer. He wrote it down, nodded and then said, “ah yes, migraine”.

I then told him about all the other symptoms I’d experienced for at least the last 5-6 years and as he wrote them down, he made little comments like “stiffness and pains are not neurological problems”. I also mentioned how worrying the brain fog had been as there is a long history of Alzheimers in my family, but he just said “well, one in 10 people get that so its just one of those things”.

He let me speak and then tested my balance (wasn’t too good - had to hold on to him to stop myself falling) and walking, touching my nose etc. He then sat me back down and said that as far as he could see, there was no neurological problem and I had silent migraines. I had never heard of ‘silent’ migraines before (I rarely have headaches), but he said all the symptoms pointed to that, especially given the eye problem. I mentioned that I’d only had the eye problem for a few months but the other symptoms had been present for years and were quite debilitating at times but he was adamant that there were no other issues than migraine.

However, he then referred me for an MRI saying that it is likely to show “white spots” but he would know that they were migraine lesions and “definitely nothing sinister like MS”. He then sent me away with a prescription of Gabapentine for my restless legs and pins & needles.

Having read up about silent migraines since, I can see that the symptoms are very similar to those of MS so he is the expert and he obviously knows more than me. However, I did come away from the appointment feeling less than listened to and that once he heard about my eye problems, that had made his mind up. Whilst I do not wish by any stretch of the imagination to be diagnosed with MS or any other neurological condition, I feel a little bit lost by it all.

Apologies again for the epic length of this post, I really do appreciate your time in reading it. Thank you all.x

Mmm, your neuro did sound dismissive of your symptoms apart from the eye issues. I can see why you felt less than happy with the appointment.

Wait until after you get the results of the MRI and if you still feel unhappy with the follow up, see your go and tell her so.

Then see what is suggested next.

Hang in there chuck. The road to diagnosis can be a very bumpy and long one…as was mine!

Pollx

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Thank you Poll, yes the appointment wasn’t what I expected. I felt quite annoyed with myself afterwards for not being more robust but I do tend to be a shrinking violet when I first meet specialists. It’s good advice to wait and see what happens with the mri, thank you.

hi

yes as poll says, wait for the mri results.

as for specialists, they are specialists in their fields but you are the best specialist when it comes to your body.

enjoy christmas - it will help pass the time until your results are in.

carole x

I am sorry that the consultation felt less than satisfactory, but never mind: that’s water under the bridge. MRI machines do not fail to listen and they do not jump to conclusions, they just record what they ‘see’. And of course the reading and interpretation of them is a matter of human skill and judgement, but that will be skill and judgement applied to cold, hard factual evidence.

So please don’t worry too much about perhaps not having got your points across as well as you might have wished, or about the feeling that the doctor was not really in receive mode. The scan will tell its own story. My suggestion would be to shrug off the disappointment of the consultation as best you can, let the scan process and evaluation play itself out and take it from there.

Alison

Your neuro sounds very much like my 1st neuro. A very experienced neurologist with a great CV (although not an expert in MS) but the social skis of a bucket of ****. He dismissed all of the concerns I had and ignored everything that wasn’t in accordance with his wrong initial view. It didn’t help that he exhibited all the characteristics of someone with Aspergers or similar (imagine Sheldon from Big Bang Theory but without the charm and warmth).

I only got anywhere with him when, after my 2nd appointment, I broke down and my husband was so angry with him that he (very contemptuously) offered to refer me to his head of department (I think that even he could see a complaint coming!). He referred me with a letter saying “I have assured her that she does not have MS”. His head of department took 1 appointment to flag MS up as probable and to refer me for confirmatory tests like lumbar puncture and evoked potentials.

His letters to my GP are quite funny though. I don’t know if he knew I was being copied in to his letters but it was amusing how I started off being referred to as “this delightful lady” to “this lady” to “this woman”. We didn’t bond :relaxed:

Gosh, he sounded delightful! It’s a difficult process to go through when you can’t strike up any sort of rapport with the person you’re discussing your worries and concerns with.

Thank you Alison. Now a few days have passed, I’m settling into just waiting for the mri and testing the medication out (I’ve never seen such a long and varied list of ‘common’ side effects, quite amusing really!). I think in hindsight I was more annoyed with myself than the doctor as I felt I’d let myself down a little by not, as I thought, communicating clearly. Hopefully I’ll get the scan date soon and the results of that will resolve things once and for all. Lindsey

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[quote=“OnlyBrowsing”] Gosh, he sounded delightful! It’s a difficult process to go through when you can’t strike up any sort of rapport with the person you’re discussing your worries and concerns with. [/quote] He was delightful. However, the Professor who arranged my diagnosis his junior consultant who took over my care post diagnosis and the MS nurse were FANTASTIC! 18 months or so later I moved from London to Cardiff and my team here is brilliant too.

There is a peculiar feeling when you’ve experienced various odd things over years, you finally tie the whole lot together and come up with MS, only to find a dismissive and (basically) uncaring and unhelpful neurologist who gives you an utterly useless appointment.

It’s that although no one wants to be diagnosed with MS, in a bizarre way you’re utterly deflated and disappointed by his dismissal of your worries.

Sometimes it feels worse not to have your concerns taken seriously.

I truly hope you have your MRI soon. And that it gives you an unequivocal answer to your worries. Sadly, for many people, the Limboland journey continues on. Keep coming on here and letting us know your progress, someone will usually understand and give you whatever support they can.

Sue

Thank you Sue, you have summed up exactly how I’m feeling. I’m hoping a letter will arrive next week, rather than wait until after Christmas, and I’ll have an mri date to work towards. I will continue to visit the forum as I find it a true source of inspiration and reassurance, thank you :slight_smile: Lindsey

Ive had similar experience where my cognitive problems were put down to side effect of medication. I have since stopped this medication. I was asked to keep a diary over 6wks. I had been saying all these problems but until Drs read the daily effects I felt I wasnt being listened too. I have neurology consultant on 20/1 and plan to keep a daily diary again.

I’ve now got my MRI date - 10th January - so not too long to wait at all. I’ve also started the medication today (I held back starting so I could have a drink at our work Christmas do!) and no terrible side effects to report so far, I just feel a little light-headed. If I don’t post here beforehand, I hope everyone has an enjoyable Christmas and thank you again for your kind responses. Lindsey x

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Hi. I was diagnosed with migraine aura in June, I’d never heard of it either. But my MRI, has picked up something, unlike your neuro mine said aura would not show on an MRI. I have one with contrast booked in for Dec 29th. I’ve been back and forth to the docs since January and I’m getting seriously fed up. Still lots of tests to go, when it’s all complete I’ll tell you my story and introduce myself properly. This is my first post, I just wanted to mention about my migraines that I knew when he said was a load of rubbish. I hope you all don’t mind me reading until I’m fully ready to share. Cat

Hi Cat, nice to hear from you.Sounds like you are in a similar situation to me. I hope you get some further answers soon. No worries about not saying much to start with, I browsed this forum for months before I posted - it really helped me to see what others were saying and had been through, and helped me make sense of wjat I was going through. Everyone is really friendly and has great advice so when you do feel ready, you’ll have plenty of support. Good luck with your next mri. Lindsey x