Great advice guys. They your employers are in big trouble, and if push comes to shove you go get a solicitor who is expert in disability and employment and they can sort it all out for you. I think your AMAZING you are working and in such a hard job too. I did that job in Tidworth had to do the laundry for Army hospitals/all kinds of stuff and i was fit and enable and exhausted at the end of each day. So you are AMAZING. They should be proud of you, having someone work so hard, not give you grief.
I think the manager needs to go off and do some more training.
Ask if you can take someone into the meeting with you and ask if that person can take notes.
This will rattle the managers a bit.
Mention DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION ACT - tell them you are studying this and taking legal advice about your position.
Mention CONSTRUCTIVE DISMISSAL - this is where someone is forced out of a job against their wishes - tell the managers you are finding out more about this.
Most importantly make a list of what you want from this meeting- what changes can be implemented so you can carry on working.
My guess is the managers will be very pleasant because you have been badly treated - donât be fobbed off - stick to your guns and get what you want - you have rights in law.
Just came back from the meeting with the other manager and the one who i had the incident⌠I went on my own as was short notice so couldnât arranged to get someone. I wanted to see what they have to say.
they apologised again for the incident that the conversation should have been done in privacy.
But still tried to blame it on miss translation ( which is not true) I mentioned the words said and the one who has said did not denied. the other one was trying to back up his colleague by blaming me for not talking to them early if i needed to sit. so was 50/50 according to him.
they would need to go for a risk assessment firs and talk to specialist about my condition before they keep me at work again.
I told him about reasonable adjustments that Occupational therapist wanted to discuss with him and he agreed.
He was worried that other people may ask to sit usual so wasnât sure whether he wanted to risk that and also asked stupid questions like how healthy am I going to be? i did mention that i can still do my work while siting with no problems
they would need to go for a risk assessment and talk to a specialist about my condition before they take be back to work
uh, risk assessment yes, what he is worried about with the other employees does not matter at all when it comes to things like this and asking daft/possibly personal questions is wrong on so many levels I would be talking to a lawyer or the CAB/Access to Work as this whole thing seems really dodgy on so many levels If you want to keep your job, you might have to fight for it sadly
The use of "miss translation " makes me think this managers are not native english speakers but that again doesnât matter when it comes to the law
Are you being paid whilst off work? I think you should be. If not, then go to the job centre, I believe they can help in these situations, as can CAB and the other organisations mentioned in the above posts. You need an income whilst they carry out their assessment, and you have done nothing wrong.
Iâm horrified that theyâre doing something like this.
you were tired, so you leant against something
a manager, who knows you have MS comes over, tells you, publicly that you canât lean against something and tells you that if you canât do the job you shouldnât be there.
you get very upset.
later, youâre called to a more senior manager, the lower manager apologises.
then youâre told to attend another meeting, where you donât have any support or representation and they that you are equally responsible for what the lower manager did.
they say they will do a risk assessment to see if itâs possible for you to IRON WHILE SEATED!
they also intend to get expert advice about whether or not you should be working thereâŚ
Good god, i canât even begin to say what i think, just:
UNION!
theyâre contravening so many of your rights, you need either a union or CAB advice or legal advice i would get at least one of them underway as soon as possible.
this is an out and out abuse of power, do you know if theyâre paying you?
i;m so sorry that youâre dealing with these awful people.
If you have worked here 12 years then you are entitled to benefits. Are you from the EU or other country?
Even if you are working on a visa you are still entitled to be treated the same in this country. They cannot actually tell you to leave work whilst they are sorting it out they are basically contravening employment laws, they have to PAY you.
THIS IS THE LAW, for and including agency workers:
If youâre disabled, employers have a duty to remove the barriers you face because of your disability so you can do your job and apply for jobs in the same way as someone whoâs not disabled. This is called the duty to make reasonable adjustments.
If youâre disabled, your employer could also discriminate against you if youâre treated unfairly because of something arising from your disability rather than the disability itself.
I would ring EASS they will advise you about equality and discriminationâŚ
Also you need to write a letter of grievance to your employers if you need help go to CAB and they will advise you how to write it. There is no risk posed to have you sitting down doing your jobâŚthey have clearly stated its simply because others will want to follow⌠If I was you, your obviously a very good worker I would look for other employment who would want to work with this company. As you were up front with them, they already knew you were disabled. Dont let them get away with it, even working on a visa you have certain rights and I am not sure why after 12 years in this country you are still working within the confines of one?.
Equality Advisory Support Service (EASS)
FREEPOST
Equality Advisory Support Service
FPN4431
It sets out what your employer can and cannot do. It also lists all the useful organisations in the back. There are pages to record what is said in meetings so you always have a record of everything.
Iâm very angry on your behalf, I cannot believe your employer has treated you like this. You are still the same person you were before they knew you had a chronic condition. Just shocking âŚ
Hiya, this is one reason why people should be in a union, and why the tories and ukip should NEVER be in power, in any form, folk should/must stick together, irrespective of race, colour, creed. fight the bosses, admittedly, this does not help you at this time, but you do have rights, you have nothing to fear. Is there anyone who will help defend and assist you, take notes, ask questions, back you, and if they donât know it, your fellow workers, Brian
what surprises me most is that how could it be possible that a 25 years old company has never came across this stuff about the disability Laws. All managers are English employees are not. I felt guilty for being there with my ms. this is how they made me feel.
Or are they all pretending�
Obviously I have a lot to do. I will try Union ans EASS.
â THANK YOU to all of YOU. Means a lot to me, the support and everything!!
Iâd take a guess that they do know about disability laws and that they donât employ British workers, so up to this point they have always got away with it.
Best of luck and please keep us I formed of the outcome.
Aw sweetie, Iâm self-employed so I understand what itâs like to not have many rights and itâs rubbish! I only get along cos of all the love I get from my wonderful family and friends.
I would be talking to a lawyer or the CAB/Access to Work as this whole thing seems really dodgy on so many levels 