My old Kloz violin is back with me after ‘permanent’ loan not needed now.
The label inside reads 1702 but is unclear with passage of three hunded years.
A recent appraisal and valuation suggested 1770ish. Josef wasn’t yet born in 1702, though the Klo(t)z family goes way back to 16 odd.
So all of you who think you might have known josefkloz1702, didn’t know him at all!